Venice Is Eating

When On Tour, The Gastronomers Of Venice Is Sinking Will Put Anything In Their Mouths

originally published November 8, 2006

Perhaps the upcoming gig at Farm 255 is only the start of a string of culinarily oriented shows for Venice Is Sinking. Already known as a band that’ll play most any venue you can think of (including the Elberton 12 County Fair, most recently, where the band followed Robinson’s Racing Pigs, the ninth annual Diaper Derby and “Professional All-Star Wrestling”), perhaps Venice is Sinking will expand yet further into the restaurant world. After all, this group does enjoy some good grub.

Courtnie Wolfgang

Venice Is Sinking

Guitarist and vocalist Daniel Lawson tells Flagpole that the bandmembers keep a guide to vegetarian and vegan restaurants of the United States in the van as they tour in support of this year's debut album Sorry About the Flowers, but not because they’re strict vegetarians; bassist Stephen Miller is veggie but eats fish, and both Lawson and Karolyn Troupe (viola, vocals, fix-it gal) were members of that club once upon a time. So, why the guide? Partially, it was a gift from Lawson’s mom, but it’s “mostly so we can try and eat healthy," says Lawson. "Two days of fast food/ bar food  can really fuck a person up. It has directions from the interstate to all the vegetarian-friendly places in each city. It tells you where to find Indian food in rural Ohio and how to get to Whole Foods and other grocery stores, which is helpful.”

Faster Food Pussycat

Accelerated schedules and unexpected events, however, often lead to less nutritious dining, and after all, as drummer Lucas Jensen admits, “Besides Steve, we all really love fast food, particularly Arby's, Chick-fil-A and Bojangle's.  Those Arby's loaded potato bites are insane.  Daniel and James [Sewell, keyboards] are big Hardee's burger fans.  We can talk fast food for hours.” Really. They can. And there is some controversy here, as Lawson’s version of the Hardee’s story goes like this: “Over the summer, Hardee's was in the middle of a limited-time-only Philly cheesesteak hamburger promotional campaign that Lucas and I kept daring each other to try. I wish one of us had. It was one of their 1/3 lb. Thickburgers topped with cheesesteak. No joke. It looked disgusting.”

Despite the stomach problems we don't want to hear about, the fiber pills Jensen swears they keep in the van and Lawson’s insistence that the recent spinach scare wreaked hell on the diets of all bandmembers (he also swears he’s been trying to cook kudzu to an edible level of chewiness), it seems that gluttony is Venice Is Sinking’s sin of choice, just not gluttony without discrimination. Lawson mentions that they try to eat at local places more than chains, but “it has less to do with some sort of anti-corporate, support-local-business political stance and more to do with the fact that generally the food and people will be more interesting. I'll take a locally owned diner over a Waffle House any day, and I'd much rather eat at a hamburger place called Dizzy Wizz than at a Checkers.” This holds true in Athens as well. Lawson said he tends to eat at places near where he works, including Daily Groceries, Donderos’ Kitchen and The Grit; note the absence of Wendy’s and Captain D’s, both also in the area.

The easiest thing to do is eat at the club they’re playing that evening or within walking distance, but that doesn’t usually work out very well. Lawson describes rock-club food as “brown, fried and rarely delicious,” but concedes that some places are exceptions. “There's a place in Pittsburgh called the Brillobox that has wonderful bar food," he allows. "The Map Room in Charleston has burgers they grind themselves. They even grind bacon into the meat before cooking.  I didn't try them, but Lucas seemed satisfied.”

The next step down from actual good food, bar food and preferred fast food seems to be turnpike food, according to Lawson. “You are forced to stop at these government-sponsored  places with gas, food, restrooms and tourist info all in one spot," he says. "In New Jersey, the service areas are named after famous people from New Jersey. I remember the Richard Stockton one being okay, but the Clara Barton one sucked.  Usually your dining options are either one of those Nathan's Hot Dog places or Burger King. Sometimes there's an ice cream shop of some kind. If you’re lucky, there’s a Subway.  I hate the turnpikes.  They force you to drive around the towns and you’re penalized monetarily every time you try and leave the road.” And below that is gas station food, which the band has been forced to rely on occasionally, with RaceTrac apparently having the best selection of “semi-edible items,” such as the taquitos, which Jensen has been known to successfully consume.

Going To The Snack Shop

What about snacks? A band needs to have loads of energy to quip onstage as much as VIS does, after all. Jensen proposes a conspiracy theory: “James always brings a food bag with us on long trips, which contains the most random stuff: beef jerky, yogurt bars, almonds, apples.  It seems healthy, but it ain't, because we end up snacking for hours and he manages to sneak candy in there.  I'm convinced that Venice is Sinking is why I am so overweight.  Well, that and 31 years of gluttony.”

Did they chow down at the fair when they played? Not during the show, of course, but indeed they did. “I had some sort of disgusting Italian sausage with an inedible, rubbery casing and James had a ‘BBQ Sand,’ which was not unlike the McDonald's classic McRib," says Lawson. "The condiments were dispensed from giant bags that looked like cow udders that hung down from the ceiling of the food truck. I'd never seen anything like it before. Squeezing mustard out of a synthetic cow udder is not something I want to get used to. We also shared a funnel cake with strawberries on it.”

Of course, Farm 255 should be a decent break from the grease, gas-station taquitos and mustard udders. But the restaurant should, perhaps, consider the obsessive abbreviation kick the band got on for a while. “In Indianapolis, there was a place that advertised 'ho dos' and 'hamburgs' pretty proudly," says Lawson. "For about a week after that,  we all  abbreviated everything we ate. Bisc and grav (biscuits and gravy), whisk and ging (whiskey  and ginger ale), breakfa spesh (breakfast special), etc. It got out of hand.”

A band that enjoys the search for the elusive perfect bbq sand is a band that believes in smelling the hell out of some roses, and Venice is Sinking’s combination of gusto and goof-off shows that roses combine just fine with salt, grease, Sparks and any variety of pork products.

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Too Smooth to Die

Greg Dulli Makes The Twilight Last

originally published November 8, 2006

“I’ve got a dick for a brain!” screams a young lady at the back of the Double Door, a Chicago club the Twilight Singers have now packed two nights in a row. That’s a quote from Gentlemen, the 1993 LP by the Afghan Whigs, Greg Dulli’s band at the time, an album noted for its self-lacerating honesty or its raw misogyny, depending on which side of the kitchen you’re slicing from. It’s the record that put Greg Dulli, now frontman for, and sole constant member of, the Twilight Singers, on the map. But it took more than that to keep him there. And he’s too far away to hear this young lady.

The Twilight Singers

Greg Dulli is the rare beast that can succeed in this biz. He’s a narcissist with empathy. He was probably born a smug bastard. Over the years, he earned the right to be a smug bastard by picking up everything he found and looking at it until he understood why it existed. He worked and endured until he could hand-pick his band, and he’s not afraid to let one of his recruits (in this case Mark Lanegan, of Screaming Trees fame, back then, and of Twilight Singers fame, tonight) sing lead and steal the show for a few numbers.

The stuff Dulli does now is a mix of everything he likes, which includes orchestral soul, storytelling and callbacks on loan from hip hop, and a certain cinematic grandeur. It takes a certain panache to pull off this sort of bricolage in a live setting. (I’m not sure there’s a word for it, and I make money off this shit.) Dulli has it. On top of that, he’s got Satanic charisma, even as a microdot from the back of the room. On top of that, he manages, during the course of “Too Tough To Die,” to practice his standup act. (Dulli sniffs his armpit. “Smells like cookies… What flavor? Your favorite.”) Who knows when he’ll need it?

Before it’s over, Dulli works in a few bars from a song off Gentlemen. Not because he could hear the young lady, but because he knows it’ll go over well. It does.

Greg Dulli grew up in Cincinnati and lives in Los Angeles, but he loves the city of New Orleans. It’s documented. Portions of Powder Burns, the album behind which the Twilight Singers are now touring, were recorded there, directly in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, on generator power. The song “Forty Dollars” is lyrically based on very specific New Orleans drug slang, and the album’s closer “I Wish I Was” is an agonizingly romantic tribute to the city built below sea level.

With some difficulty, Dulli fit the following conversation into his schedule while stopped in Tucson, a city with “warm weather… good-looking women… good tacos.”

Flagpole
When was the last time you were in New Orleans?
Greg Dulli
Three weeks ago.
Flagpole
How is it going down there? You don’t hear that much about it, it seems like.
Greg Dulli
Lot of crime. Lot of violent crime. They’re trying to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but unless they get some real leadership down there, I sense a rough road.
Flagpole
So right now it’s unfettered free-market capitalism, basically?
Greg Dulli
Sure. And there’s a lot of out-of-towners down in there, like, busting in on the construction trade and everything. I don’t see a whole lot of the civic action that I used to see, the tight-knit communities. It seems like the upheaval has been pronounced and extended.
Flagpole
Is this [Twilight Singers] lineup jelling pretty well?

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(L to R) Greg Dulli and Mark Lanegan

Greg Dulli
Yeah. We’ve been playing together since May. We played about 75 shows, then we took a six-week break, and now we’ve just done two of 40.
Flagpole
What would you say makes a good Twilight Singer? I know the lineup has shifted a little bit, and technically it’s whoever else is in the room, but what would you say that you look for now when you’re looking for people to play in the band?
Greg Dulli
Gotta be a great player. Have to be a good guy. Have to be able to get along with everybody else. But these guys are all my friends. I brought them all together. None of them knew each other before. I knew them all individually, and kind of hand-picked them.
Flagpole
In your lyrics, what role would you say that guilt plays? I know it comes up in reviews quite a bit.
Greg Dulli
I think probably more in the Afghan Whigs material. I don’t think I’ve really harped on guilt in about 10 years.
Flagpole
People still talk about it. But the new stuff seems a little bit more self-actualized.
Greg Dulli
Yeah, sure. Or even abstract. I was a young man exploring my psyche, and I’m sure it probably stuck as some kind of a rep. But that’s lazy journalism, in my opinion.
Flagpole
Are you planning on doing a lot of covers on this tour?
Greg Dulli
We’re doing a few. Reinterpretation has been a fascination of mine since I was a kid. I’m constantly finding things I can weave into other things. Like last night, I did a piece of “The Killing Moon” by Echo and the Bunnymen, out of nowhere. I hadn’t done that before. It just happened organically. I was surprised when I knew all the words.
Flagpole
So what do you think makes a good cover version?
Greg Dulli
You gotta love it. You’ve gotta love the song. You’ve gotta read the room and see who your audience is, if they’re gonna get what what you’re doing. And you have to make it your own.
Flagpole
I was in Cincinnati over the summer, and I had a really good time there. It seemed like those people knew how to party. But I couldn’t find anybody there who seemed like they were happy about the fact that they lived there. What do you think is going on in Cincinnati?
Greg Dulli
It was a great place to grow up… There’s a conservative undercurrent in that reason, that anybody with the slightest liberal take on life gets a kind of pariah status. The underground there, which is where I came up, it’s pretty close-knit. I’m still bros with everybody who stuck it out there. I love visiting. My family still lives there. But I knew, as a boy, that I wouldn’t be hanging out there too long.
Flagpole
What would you say to people that hate Los Angeles?
Greg Dulli
I would say that four million people don’t live there because it sucks.
Flagpole
It does seem to have some draw. What drew you out there?
Greg Dulli
I like warm weather. You seek to find an environment where you’ll feel comfortable, and find people who are like-minded. There’s a fantastic community out there. The cliché of Los Angeles, I never see that, because I’m not over there. Fake, shallow people are everywhere. They’re in Chicago. They’re in Omaha. They’re in Paris. They’re in Gary, IN. I don’t hang around with people like that. I’ve often said that if I ever met Woody Allen, I’d kick him in the balls and say, “You know what I’m talking about.’”

WHO: The Twilight Singers, Stars of Track and Field, Jeff Klein
WHERE: 40 Watt Club
WHEN: Thursday, November 9
HOW MUCH: $10

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Bridges, Not Walls

Perpetual Groove Settles Into Its New Status As An Athens Band

originally published November 8, 2006

James Harris

Perpetual Groove

The Perpetual Groove syndicate - band, management and technical support personnel - recently traded in Low Country mailing addresses to become Athenians. Our Northeast Georgia oasis has long supported homegrown, transplanted and in-transit bands of every conceivable genre and talent level. They loiter and practice at Nuçi’s, feed at the Taco Stand, phone and email Flagpole - and you, the readers, decide if these bands are served a welcome-mat-and-fanfare or a tumbleweed-and-crickets reception at, say, Tasty World on a Tuesday night.

Having sold out the Georgia Theatre for three consecutive evenings during a New Year's run as 2005 became '06, Perpetual Groove arrives in Athens with an established fanbase, an impressive resume and results-oriented handlers. Unquestionably, the band's already a few steps ahead of most locals looking to make music for money. Pantene (the shampoo) had an ad campaign a few years back where a British supermodel said, “Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful.” Same goes for Perpetual Groove. Whether you’re a hater, a fan, a lover or simply riding the welcome wagon, Perpetual Groove is an Athens band, and the town is better off for it. Really.

This writer was recently adopted by the P-Groove (we’re on a one-name basis now) family and spent lunch breaks, late evenings and cocktail hours with different members. We discovered that bassist Adam Perry is the bona fide rock star of the quartet, and his recent purchase of a ’73 El Dorado, an undeniably sweet sled he got for a song, proves it. Manager Ben Ferguson tirelessly promotes, protects and personalizes this band unlike any point person in recent memory. Jason Huffer, the band’s incomparable lighting director, listens to more MP3s than most bloggers and even the sexiest of music journalists. But the rest of the story is the responsibility of guitarist, vocalist and principal songwriter Brock Butler.

Economics and aesthetics were the most important considerations in the group’s decision to uproot from Savannah. “For me, and I think for all of us, they all went hand in hand," says Butler. "I love Savannah, and I’ll always love it, [but] I think Athens has a fantastic energy. The week we moved here, Beck played at the Georgia Theatre, and Savannah just doesn’t get these things we’d like to be seeing. It’s an inspiring place to be.”

The bottom line? “I can’t tell you how many nights I’ve been going to bed after a road trip and I think to myself, if we lived in Savannah I’d still be in the van for another five hours,” says Butler. No doubt the centralized location of Athens makes a significant difference to this regional heavy making national noise, especially considering the more than 200 shows P-Groove performs annually.

As for getting comfortable and assimilated in the Classic City, Butler - who had a number of full-band and solo acoustic shows in Athens under his belt at places as disparate as Italian eatery Amici and the Georgia Theatre - smiles and says, “I felt pretty acclimated when I got here. I’m home now.”

P-Groove has even paid live homage to some of its new neighbors, even if most hippies at the show (and hipsters that didn’t go) don’t know. Unafraid in improvisational endeavors, the band, and namely drummer Albert Suttle, recently incorporated the beat from Of Montreal’s “Wraith Pinned to the Mist and Other Games” into their original (and unreleased) song “The Twist” during a few live performances.

Further evidence of the band's intent to marry itself to the community and break down provincial boundaries dividing music camps arrives this week at the Georgia Theatre. Proceeds from the performance will go directly to the venue instead of the band, in an effort to make some much-needed improvements to the facility's aging plumbing system. This benefit show promises to be the first in a series of events coordinated by an organization called Friends of the Georgia Theatre. The group is “dedicated to the historic preservation of the cornerstone of the Athens music scene” and, “bring[ing] back the art-deco glory of the magnificent Georgia Theatre.”

As of press time, the band was discussing an opener for this week's show, eventually deciding to share the bill with local Southern psych-pop outfit Summer Hymns. It’s refreshing to see bands from either side of Lumpkin Street acknowledge and support each other in the Swiss middle ground of the Georgia Theatre. The venue has meant a lot to the development of a band that once cut its teeth and toiled in unfortunate and less-prominent local spaces like Last Call. For all intents and purposes, the Theatre represented home base to Perpetual Groove long before its recent transplant, and Butler credits Theatre owner Wilmot Greene with maintaining that relationship. “Wilmot has been very generous,” says Butler, adding, “It’s a great room to play.”

Greene, for his part, says he appreciates Perpetual Groove’s assistance and admires their perseverance. “The guys in the band load in their own equipment and the crew gets stuff done," he says.  "I guess that sounds simple, but it's not too often that we have a big band show up and do what they're supposed to do in an efficient and friendly manner.  And the fans just love it!”

He adds, “It's no surprise that when four guys check their egos and just commit to making music everything seems to work out.  Every time they play here, I feel like it's my kid brothers showing up to have a big party in my house… I know they're going to make a mess, but everyone's going to have a real good time.”

As for the fundraising efforts, Greene admits that Perpetual Groove has, thus far, been the only band to approach him about "giving back" to the venue. “P-Groove always brings this crazy light show and therefore you can really see the imperfections in the room when they play," he says.  "So I painted the ceiling before the New Year’s shows last year so you couldn't see the ugly water stains up there.  I jokingly said that they were making my place look bad.  They must have taken me seriously, because they offered to help out.  I am so flattered and pleased by their gift; it's really incredible.”

The aforementioned New Year’s run and the historic live performance in Dolby 5.1 surround sound in 2004 make the Georgia Theatre an integral part of the band's growing legend. Affectionately dubbed, “The Shitter Show” by P-Groove’s Perry, the band will give back to toilets that have long suffered on the receiving end.

Yes, the phrase "growing legend" was used. It's not a term that should be thrown around, but consider Perpetual Groove's roots and then witness recent performances: amazing 20,000 revelers at Bonnaroo 2006; the festival-on-water cruise ship jaunt Xingolati with the Flaming Lips; a sold-out tour of Japan. That’s a long way from the Mellow Mushroom in Statesboro.

Just a few years ago, the Georgia-based jamband roster was crowded with like-minded performers following virtually identical paths. Unfortunately, the destination was never clearly defined. Many bands have been swallowed by obscurity, while others still find themselves experiencing the same levels of success (or lack thereof) they’ve known from the start. Adams Township, Captain Soular Cat, Field Trip, The Strange, Ancient Harmony, Moonshine Still, Ghost Train, Green Light Council, Maxwell Lummus, Shank, Melodious Ground - the list goes on, and likely has a half-dozen bands that incorporate the word "groove" into their names, yet P-Groove has eclipsed its jammy contemporaries and blazed a trail the others would gladly let light their way.

In January 2007, the band will release its third proper album, and its first for Tree Leaf Records, the fledgling label recently founded by folks at Tree Sound Studios in Atlanta. The quartet recorded the as-of-yet untitled effort and 2004’s All This Everything (Harmonized Records) at Tree Sound with Grammy-winning producer Robert Hannon, who has handled recording duties for Outkast, among others.

Is this the beginning of a producer-artist relationship that’ll see the same mileage as, say, that between John Keane and Widespread Panic? “I certainly hope so,” says Butler. “Robert and Tree Sound in general are really nice. They don’t look at their watch and figure out how much money you owe. It’s a really relaxed atmosphere working with him, and he’s not really a jam-band guy. He’d never seen us play before we started recording with him.”

An advance copy of the album proves once again that Perpetual Groove has a leg up on the rest of the heady, improvisational scene. While most bands with similar inclinations are still trying to capture elusive live energy on an album, or prove their propensity for genre-hopping, Perpetual Groove has captured a more mature sound. The band does not lack direction. Its music is as song-oriented and concise as could be expected from any arena-ready prog-rockers, past or present.

“I think the elements that make us the band we are are still there, but we’re bringing more experience," says Butler of the band's evolution. "We’re no longer jamming out to see what happens, and we’re not just recording happy accidents. We like having ideas that manifest… and on this album I wanted a different guitar tone. I wanted crunch!”

Mission accomplished. The recorded incarnations of road-tested anthems like “Only Always” and “Speed Queen” fit nicely alongside fierce and philosophical new songs like “Save for One” and “It Starts Where it Ends” (which, incidentally features some very interesting and very real disaster dialogue between pilots and air traffic controllers). P-Groove purists will not be disappointed. And others who drop their musical guards may be pleasantly surprised.

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